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Is it pretentious for the NFL to use Roman numerals for the Super Bowl? | February 12, 2023

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By Jacob Stockinger

Today — Sunday, Feb. 12, 2023 — is Super Bowl LVII.

Or as we say in ordinary English — “57.”

(It airs at 5:30 p.m. Central Standard Time on Fox.)

The Ear thinks it is pretentious for the NFL to use Roman numerals, which are esoteric and incomprehensible to many members of the public.

Does anyone else think so?

Using the Roman numerals in sports also seems unpractical.

Imagine the NBA using the same antiquated number system to record LeBron James’ new record for a lifetime basketball score —  33,388 points. According to Google, it would be XXXIIICCCLXXXVIII.

How convenient! And silly, no?

It seems the same kind of pretentious authenticity The Ear hears too often in Classical music where authentic foreign pronunciations often seem a sort of status symbol that says “Look at what I know and you don’t, but should.”

Not exactly the kind of effort at reaching out that classical music needs to draw bigger and younger audiences.

It’s like when non-Hungarian, American speakers say “Budapesht” when in English it is simply Budapest. And this often comes from the same people don’t usually say München for Munich, or Roma for Rome, or Paree for Paris. 

Can American speakers just speak plain American English for the sake of clarity and simplicity?

And can the NFL just use either English numbers or, like the Olympics, the year to show which competition it is?

Anyway, despite such preciousness and pretentiousness, we can enjoy today’s 57th or 2023 Super Bowl championship game in Phoenix between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Here’s another easier equivalency: a beautiful long pass and a beautiful javelin throw.

Which why The Eater is offering the classical music piece “Javelin” in the YouTube video at the bottom, played by Yoel Levi conducting the Atlantic Symphony Orchestra.

Written on commission for the Atlanta Olympics by the Wisconsin-born composer Michael Torke, it soars with a grace and an energy that is made all the more understandable and moving for its lack of words and numbers.

Whatever quarterback does it, winner or loser, here’s to the thrower of the most beautiful pass today.

What do you think of the music? And of the comparison between passing a football and throwing a javelin?

And what do you think about using Roman numerals is sports and foreign pronunciations in classical music  

The Ear wants to hear.


15 Comments »

  1. What bothers me is the NFL wrapping itself in the cross and the flag. I couldn’t care less about the numerals. (If I could care less, I would.) Where do we stand on:

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    Comment by bbead — February 13, 2023 @ 9:59 am

    • Thank you for replying
      I agree with you about football using the cross and the flag
      Just play the game

      As for the Barcelona video you included:
      If you are speaking Spanish or Catalan, it makes sense to say Barthelona.
      But if you are speaking English,
      it should be Barcelona.
      Otherwise the first pronunciation is also pretentious.
      What do you think?
      Best wishes
      The Ear

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      Comment by welltemperedear — February 13, 2023 @ 10:15 am

      • We ought to be getting serious about head injuries, chest injuries. I hate football, the American version. There. I’ve said it.

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        Comment by Ronnie — February 13, 2023 @ 10:51 am

  2. are you serious? i mean, it’s come to this?

    jake, what’s the matter with you?

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    Comment by iago — February 13, 2023 @ 9:29 am

    • Hi Iago
      Thanks for the reply.
      I am indeed serious.
      But it has come to this for only one post out of many thousands.
      And it won’t last long.
      Nothing is the matter.
      But I appreciate your concern.
      Jake

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      Comment by welltemperedear — February 13, 2023 @ 10:46 am

  3. Jake, I’m surprised that you would call accurate pronunciation of words in another language “snobbishness.” As a classical singer and teacher, I can say that’s not what motivates me to pronounce words in other languages correctly. It’s about respect for the composer and the culture, a desire to accurately convey the meaning of another language.

    I really could care less about Roman numerals in the Super Bowl titles or the Super Bowl in general.

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    Comment by KathyO — February 13, 2023 @ 9:11 am

    • Hi Kathy,

      Thank you for replying.

      Perhaps I should be clearer about what I mean.

      If one is singing or speaking in a foreign language, or explaining in English what the original pronunciation is, then the foreign pronunciation is correct and not pretentious.

      But if you are speaking English, it is more correct to use the English pronunciation.

      Of course I think other cultures and language should be respected. But so should our own language and culture.

      In addition, I hear far too many people, including professional radio hosts, mangling foreign words and names in French, German and Spanish in a quest for non-English authenticity. They would often do better to stick with the English version or translation.

      I hope that makes my position clear, if not more acceptable.

      Best wishes,
      Jake

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      Comment by welltemperedear — February 13, 2023 @ 10:27 am

  4. I don’t care about the Roman numerals but it bothers me they keep singing the national anthem in 4/4 instead of 3/4!

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    Comment by Beverly Taylor — February 12, 2023 @ 10:23 pm

    • Amen, Bev!

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      Comment by KathyO — February 13, 2023 @ 9:12 am

      • Thank you Bev for pointing that out, technical though it is.

        I also get tired of individuals trying to stylize the national anthem, sometimes successfully but often not.

        It reminds me of arrangers who seek to make the original version almost unrecognizable in the name of creativity. Very annoying!

        Best wishes to you
        Jake

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        Comment by welltemperedear — February 13, 2023 @ 10:30 am

    • You will be pleased to know that in Massachusetts (General Laws, Part IV, Title I): “Section 9. Whoever plays, sings or renders the ”Star Spangled Banner” in any public place, theatre, motion picture hall, restaurant or café, or at any public entertainment, other than as a whole and separate composition or number, without embellishment or addition in the way of national or other melodies, or whoever plays, sings or renders the ”Star Spangled Banner”, or any part thereof, as dance music, as an exit march or as a part of a medley of any kind, shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars.”

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      Comment by halffastcyclingclub — February 14, 2023 @ 1:32 pm

  5. Numbers and labels. . . . points to ponder. So is the keyboard instrument that usually features 88 keys called a ‘piano’ or a soft? What shall one call the instrumental musician who plays the flute – or is it the ‘flauto,’. . . is that person a flutist or a ‘flautist’? Is that person playing Flauto I or First Flute?

    Is palavering about numerals and labels potentially just excess presumptive ‘pretentious’ pointless prattle in the first place? Maybe, maybe not.

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    Comment by R. Carroll — February 12, 2023 @ 10:07 am

    • Dear R. Carroll:

      Thank you for replying.

      You certainly have a gift for alliteration with p’s.

      As the great American poet Wallace Stevens remarked about his own work, choose the music over the meaning.
      Most of the time you can trust your ear when it comes to determining what word or term sounds foreign or archaic.

      Best wishes in your decisions

      The Ear

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      Comment by welltemperedear — February 13, 2023 @ 10:36 am

  6. Well, I’ll go first (I think) this morning — Numero I? Roman numerals at the Supreme Gladiatorial TV Showdown — seems kind of appropriate. The Romans (Romani) would have done the same? Sans TV, of course. A possible teaching moment — as in, “Hey, what are all those funny numbers up there?” As for musical snobbism, I confess to liking vocalists who come as close to the language they are singing in. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

    Any mistakes are the responsibility of Google translate: Bene, ibo primum hoc mane — Numero? Numeris romanis apud Supremum Gladiatorium TV Showdown — idoneus videtur. Romani (Romani) idem fecissent? Sine TV scilicet. Momentum possibilis doctrina – sicut in: “Heus, quid sunt omnes isti ridiculi numeri illic?” Snobbismum musicum, fateor amare vocalistas qui quam proxime accedunt ad linguam quam in canunt.

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    Comment by Ronnie — February 12, 2023 @ 9:57 am

    • Hi Ronnie,

      Thanks for replying so creatively and amusingly.

      Perhaps I wasn’t clear.
      I agree with you about using foreign pronunciations when it comes to singing or speaking in a foreign language. So vocalists usually pass the test, albeit often with coaching or mistaken instincts.

      However, in ordinary discourse in English, stick with the English.

      Voilà!

      Jake

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      Comment by welltemperedear — February 13, 2023 @ 10:40 am


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